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WINTHROP FIREHOUSE BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING 
Sept 7, 2023 at 6:00 pm DeLeo
Senior Center 
Present: Scott Wiley (SW), Jim Letterie (JL), Karin Chavis (KC), Paul Flanagan (PF), Larry Powers
(LP), Jill Dorr (JDorr), Tom Chiudina (TC), Chuck Flanagan (CF), Tony Marino (TM) ALTERNATE,
Josh Castallano (JC) 
Absent: Joe Aiello (JA) ALTERNATE, Jonathan DiMauro (JD), Kim Dimes (KM), Frank Constantino
(FC) 
Public: 2 
1. CALL TO ORDER: 6:01 
2. ROLL CALL 
3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE (Skipped accidentally, done later in meeting) 
4. MINUTES 
Approval of Minutes, August 28, 2023, as circulated 
Motion by JL 2 nd by LP 
No discussion - unanimously approved, ABSTAIN: SW, CF 
5. COMMITTEE REPORT 
6. PUBLIC COMMENTS 
PF: we missed the pledge 
(pledge recited by all) 
7. CORRESPONDENCE 
SW: email from Scott Mahoney Wright (p.3) asking about FAQs – add LEED certification re: tax incentives; will be showing
firehouse toured that is LEED certified, part of mission statement 
8. OLD BUSINESS 
FAQ-Brochure 
JL: distributed @ Winthrop Farmer’s Market (WFM) on Sunday, will be there with a booth at the next two farmers

markets 
LP – JC did good job with website & FAQ 
SW: Visits at the Firehouses, 9-12 at both stations, come by to see existing conditions 
JC: do you need RSVP for tours? 
SW: No, there will be additional staff at both stations 
**Pictures from toured stations** 
SW: went to Lexington and Waltham to tour inside stations. 
LEXINGTON: 3yrs old, 26K sq ft, cost approx. $20M 3 years ago; in metro fire district (33 communities.), gold standard
of stations; meeting room used for metro fire meetings, 80’ deep bay, CO detection through building – if detected anywhere
doors open automatically, fans in ceiling kick in in the winter to bring warm air down to help heat; traffic control station for
light outside building; dedicated turnout gear station - we store hanging from poles on the apparatus bay. Turnout gear
storage room has separate HVAC 
KC: just for Fire, not EMS? 
SW: Yes, training mezzanine on 2 nd floor above apparatus bay; repelling training station; Solar system on roof – all hot
water generated by solar, single use gender neutral bathrooms 
WOBURN: exterior doesn’t fit what we’d want for Winthrop St., had some nice features, individual Bathrooms outside
dorms, deep enough apparatus bay for piggy back parking; need to go through air lock to get to living space; nice washer
for bottles, hard gear, etc. turn out gear is damaged by UV light – all motion activated LED lights in turn out gear room;
SCBA fill has compressor outside which is much quieter; mezzanine floor has interior bail out training. 
TECTON architects – Lexington fire is gold standard for stations; First radiant apparatus floor in world Compared to
Lexington’s layout, our plan would be flipped, with the apparatus bay on the left 
KC: was the look of the façade incorporated with old building? 
SW: building had to look like downtown Lexington 
LP: ours could be somewhat similar with peaks and gables 
SW: On front of our brochure is nothing like the building will actually look; a building ours this would be $35M – the
longer this is dragged out, the more expensive it will be. 
JC: people don’t understand how important the airlock is. 
JL: encourage people to take ride to see Lexington fire station 
SW: full solar, full radiant heat system – entire apparatus floor 
CF: in 2015 wet floors were an issue 
KC: stats on Woburn? 
SW: $22M, 27k sq. feet 
JL: Woburn was $21K 
KC: asks TM if architect is selected through a bid process 
TM: yes, but not necessarily to the lowest bidder, put out RFP 
9. NEW BUSINESS 
Website Launch

JC: born from brochure; wanted to be able to communicate easier; email from today was from website. Questions added
are going to PR subcommittee and chair; point is to provide as much info as possible - has all the events on the
calendar; on Home page have a “host a coffee hour” to answer questions on a more one-on-one basis; if clicked, PR
subcommittee is alerted – just for Winthrop residences 
FAQ: same info as brochure – will be adding as more questions come in to be as transparent as possible. 
Video of conditions of current building 
JL: “how we got here” clipped from meeting and PF soliloquy clipped as well 
Mass Mailing 
SW: JL working with local company to send out postcard to every resident in town 
JL: should go out Monday, be out by Thursday. Will be addressed to “resident” 
SW: questions comments? 
KC: if questions from website going to just PR sub., how do we answer? 
JL: don’t answer, distribute to committee. Issues with email directly from site, so it was easier to send to just the
subcommittee 
KC: coffee hour piece – how do they respond? 
JL: no response, people request to have a certain house/area if people can’t make to meetings, etc. 
KC: Can DPW put signs at bridge/coming into town? 
TM: will talk to DPW 
KC: also hardware store could put up sign 
SW: these are the FORMAL open houses; these are your buildings, can come by any time 
PF: if no huge crowd, the town’s in agreement that the stations are needed; opposition isn’t there to the FF
looking for new buildings 
TC: might get developers coming if vote fails and buildings are not purchased by town 
SW: want to reiterate the immediacy, can’t be kicked down the road 
KC: Jim did great presentation on Tues about middle school site, and there is revenue; leasing the property to
someone coming in with sports complex, everyone benefits 
JL: biggest piece for middle school presentation related to this is that THIS is the plan for the firehouse – if you
want a firehouse built in next 5 years, this has to be the plan that we go with. Lexington cost 30% less three
years ago; cost of major projects has increased drastically over time; 1997 plan was 3.5M, we’re up to 34M and
its only going to go up; never ever going to find a project that checks every box for everyone, but this is close;
doing everything we can for Wadsworth tenants; plan has never gotten to this stage, we have great
opportunities. 
JD: are people still questioning about the meat market? 
JL: in a couple weeks we’ll reveal the plan, they’re going to be happy

JD: once that’s answered people will be able to move forward 
KC: is that all the tenants? 
TM: talking to all tenants, but specifically the MM has specific needs 
KC: woman here was concerned about Kirby. I don’t know how to alleviate that. Used to have 5 funeral homes, now
there’s 1 
TC: if Kirby wants to enter into this, nothing we can do 
TM: if they close, the state has a process for returning funds, etc. 
TC: at some point, he’ll be closing regardless, and people will have to deal with it 
PF: cost will continue to go up - look at house prices, up over $1m often 
TC: municipalities need to upgrade their buildings. FH needs to be done first. 
JL: will be adding finance tab that lets people find out their tax increase based on actual property value 
KC: Would it be inappropriate to have a synopsis of middle school site? 
TC: need to show WHY this site is better than middle school 
JL: at this point MS is NOT an option 
TC: as someone who thought that was a good solution, after seeing the program, believe it’s not the right site
anymore. Public safety building does not work there 
JL: do fire houses have basements? 
SW: no 
TC: our Police station does; don’t want to put shooting range on the 1 st floor; would cost a fortune to waterproof
basement at middle school site – site is too big, missing opp. To use for something better 
SW: would leave 30k sq ft and won’t know what to do with it 
KC: just a little about the revenue potential 
SW: Any further discussion? 
None 
10. ADJOURNMENT 
Motion to KC, 2 nd by JD @6:58 
The listing of matters is those reasonably anticipated by the Chair which may be discussed at the meeting. 
Not all items listed may in fact be discussed and other items not listed may be brought up for discussion to the extent
permitted by law.